Taking another look at dessies

Time to take another look at dessies. I have never really felt comfortable in dessies. They usually seem to lack some fairly fundamental feature for solo work, like range control in a Catalyst or having to sacrifice unacceptable amounts of DPS for a tank in practically everything else. Some of the Thrashers are alright but I have always found them quite predictable which I don’t like.

I loaded up a kiting Cormorant:

[Cormorant, Boring kiting Cormorant]

Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Faint Warp Disruptor I

150mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[Empty High slot]

Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I

I figured that I also need to do some more kiting since I usually either brawl or scram kite. The Cormorant was supposed to be kept outside of scram range and mercilessly rain down charges on my hapless brawling prey.

Well, I got bored of that after looking around for fights for half an hour. Maybe it’s just me but I eventually figured that kiting tends to be a bit more difficult in FW regions because it is hard to warp in on targets at range when they are in plexes.

And I am impatient.

But anyway, as I was saying I got bored and decided to jump on a Corax in a Small plex. The plan was to hit the overheated MWD before he could scram me. It didn't work because he tackled me too quickly. Most unfair. So I found myself held at 8km from an angry Corax with a thick (400mm, no less) armour tank. So it wasn't really going according to plan. But since 8km is actually a great distance for 150mm railguns I still killed him, albeit with only 11% hull remaining.

Corax: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23417411

Good result, right? Well, not really. I could have done it much more comfortably in the Comet or even a different Cormy fit. And what sort of rubbish is that Corax? Getting killed by an untanked and not particularly ganky Cormorant! So I went off the Cormorant and decided to play in PYFA with the Algos again. Here is the fit I came up with:

[Algos, Zappity’s Honour]

Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

125mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I

Acolyte II x5
Warrior II x5

This is a dessie fit that I (finally) like. 8k EHP, mostly in hull, and just over 300 DPS, mostly from the Algos’ velocity-bonused drones. I first killed another Algos, a feeble shield version:

Feeble shield Algos: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23417741
Pod: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23417742

It must have been a shock to the feeble shield Algos pilot - my shield disappeared fast, then my armour was gone, and then I was in hull. Which slowly dropped to about 2/3 before he died. Maybe that explained the pod loss. And then I drove off his Maulus and Merlin corpies who were bent on revenge after he popped. When we met up with them again I even fended off a Dragoon (who I was secretly terrified of because I usually fly cap-poor ships). Finally, a Claw caught me on a gate but had to warp off in deep structure due to my speedy Warriors.

Good fun. Decent tank, decent damage, decent defence against kite-scrubbery and not too slow. If you want an afterburner version you can upgrade the suitcase to a DC2 which gets you an extra few hundred EHP.

Losses, losses and more losses

I’m discouraged by my cruiser losses:

Thorax: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23187474

Vexor: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23195956

Vexor: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23227618

Thorax: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23262710

It is much harder to get a solo cruiser fight. People tend to be more reluctant to risk a cruiser than a frigate (I suppose I can understand that) and usually have something up their sleeve. Links, alts and corp mates seem to be much more common. Oh well, all’s fair etcetera. The gank Thorax and Vexor fits will pretty much murder anything that chooses to fight it one on one, so I guess it is fair enough that people choose not to.

It is with a heavy heart, full of dark thoughts about the future of solo cruiser combat, that I decided to hop back into a Police Pursuit Comet for a spin. I jumped through the gate and was instantly popped by a gate camping Proteus (seriously, Madbuster73 of Daredevil plus bait farming Merlin fame is really trying to outdo Patrick Kasper for the title of Potential Nemesis):

Police Comet: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23227045

Sigh. It’s just one of those weeks. I’m sure that anyone who has done much solo knows exactly what I mean. I hopped into a new Comet and headed in the other direction. The first thing I came across was a stabbed farming Catalyst. So I docked, switched my web for a second scram, and killed him good:

Farming Catalyst: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23262936
Pod: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23262937

I would crow about the capsule but I think he probably wanted to take the pod express to refit. Next up was a Hawk. I expected him to be rocket fit and was ready to pull range and warp out if the damage was too heavy. But it wasn't, so I didn't, and he died:

Hawk: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23262969

Then I found a Tristan waiting for me in a plex. He was sitting on the beacon with a cloud of drones buzzing about him. This was a very close fight. As soon as I spotted his neut I pulled range but accidentally overshot and lost point. He had a few seconds to warp away but bravely chose not to. Unfortunately, in my haste to reacquire point I again overshot (this time the other way) and a quickly-applied neut cycle capping me out! But I had already worn him down enough that my drones were able to finish him despite my hull smoking in a most alarming manner!

Tristan: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23262971

He asked for my fit and I obliged. Another victim appeared shortly after, also waiting in a plex but this time 10km from the beacon. He tried to kite but I managed to haul him in. A nice fit, actually:

Atron: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23262976

More action awaited in Prism. A Comet kept running away from me (the cowardly cuss) into a plex containing an Algos. The pair tried to catch me a couple of times but were transparently obviously in their attempts. I wanted to kill that Algos! While I was fooling around with them I stumbled across a Firetail who promptly exploded in a most satisfactory manner:

Firetail: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23263046

And finally, I spotted the Algos alone in a Small plex. When I started FRAPS (http://youtu.be/b6oF7LWr29c) the Comet was in the Medium, and although I figured that it wouldn't be long before he decided to join us I still wanted to have a crack at the Algos. So I tackled him on the acceleration gate before he could enter the plex. Sure enough, the Comet soon appeared on scan but I chose to finish off the Algos instead of running:

Algos: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23263047

It was probably too much to expect that I could also kill the Comet with only a quarter of my hull left! And so I, in turn, exploded:

Comet loss: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23263048

By this time half of local was flashing blue and not particularly happy about my presence. So I bought a shuttle and went home, well satisfied with the wreckage strewn behind me.

Now if only I could figure out those cruisers. I am toying with the idea of making more use of my scout alt. I might start checking for wormholes to hop through to less ‘advanced’ space. Maybe it is arrogance but I tend to consider lowsec FW regions as being the toughest small gang and solo PvP you can find. Perhaps I should put that to the test.

I also want to get a good kiting fit. My initial tinkering with PYFA is suggesting that I should probably have trained up Minmatar Cruiser V instead of Gallente Cruiser V. That Stabber looks awfully enticing and might provide the sort of kiting fit I probably need for successful solo cruising in lowsec. We’ll see.

I didn't want that Thorax anyway!

Not convinced that the last victory was not a fluke, I decide to venture forth in the Giant Incursus (I mean Thorax) again. I really want to find another Moa, or Giant Merlin as I have started to think of them, just to be sure. But what are the chances of that?

Well, just south of our little home I spotted another putative victim on scan. Hmm, not at a belt. Could he be ratting? Aha! Yes! But by the time I arrive all I see are wrecks and his dscan signature in another asteroid field. I sort my ‘belts’ overview by name and select the belt two below the current one, figuring that he would be on his way to it before long. Sure enough, we land at about the same time.

Well at least he isn’t PvE fit! I ignore his scram and web and move into a tight orbit, get all the things firing and droning and webbing and whatnot and watch as his shield starts to drop. And then go back up. And then drop again. And you get the picture. Active tank, probably XLASB, but are there one or two of them? Only one, it appears as he suddenly drops into armor and then hull. Another one bites the dust.

Moa: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23169244

Now I want to find a different type of cruiser to fight. I am guessing that an armour electron fit is not going to be quite versatile enough for proper solo work but let’s see.

And, there! Just before downtime I spot a cruiser gang in a plex: Thorax, Omen, Curse. I try and bait them into splitting up but they aren't having a bar of it. And so i jump in anyway, keen to have a crack. Surely my newly designed indestructible Thorax can beat a measly three cruisers!

The Curse rapidly neuts me out but I'm not too concerned about that since i have a cargo hold full of charges. I choose the Thorax, thinking that he is the most likely to want to brawl. I doubt I will be able to catch a ship that doesn't want to with two or three webs on me. Sure enough, he comes close and I immediately break his shield and start working through his armour.

Unfortunately, I forget that I have two reppers, and only fire up the ancillary when I am already in hull. Far too late!

Thorax: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23176671

I didn't want that Thorax anyway :)

A Hookbill crashes the party

Frigates! Breacher, Merlin, Rifter. How hard can it be for the magnificent rail Comet? Well, not hard at all when they don't land at the same time. The Breacher went down first with the Merlin landing just as his hull was almost finished. I switched the scram to him and repeated the process, only to see the Rifter land just as the Merlin died.

Breacher: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23193835
Merlin: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23193836

I had a little more trouble with the Rifter. My stupid repper wouldn't activate even though it was only 92% damaged. It took me a moment to realise that my guns were also not working. Capped out! Well, there was a lot going on. That's my excuse anyway.

I set my drones on the Rifter and manually activated the guns when possible. If he hadn't been a new player I would certainly have died.

But I didn't.

Rifter: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23193837
Pod: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23193838

The Rifter pilot convoed me after the fight. Naturally I sent him the lecture link - but he had already read it! What's more, being an avid reader of the thread he KNEW I would be the Comet pilot and was actually warping in to help me!

I felt bad then. Under the circumstances I reckon it would have been much better if he'd managed to kill me. Anyway, it was a great little skirmish regardless.

Next time out I was watching (isn't it funny how informative dscan is when you get used to it?) an Ishkur hunting through the same systems that I was prowling through. I spotted him on short scan and had loitered long enough to ID the pilot. Hmm, the name looks familiar... Aha! He's the pilot of Atron and pod fame from post #176 (https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4708882#post4708882)! Definitely gotta get him now.

He was clearly heading back down the pipe toward Ish so I hopped ahead and quickly switched to an Enyo in my home station. By the time I undocked, my intended victim had already entered the system. Even though there was nothing yet on scan I initiated warp to the Small plex, thinking it the most likely target for an Ishkur to start with.

I landed just after him. He did not have enough time to get clear and I snared him good. However, shortly after I started on him a neutral Hookbill landed on top of us. I think he was expecting us to be inside the plex and no doubt got a shock when he was scrammed and webbed by the Ishkur! I think the Ishkur knew that his own ship was lost and figured that he might as well take someone with him.

I quickly switched my single faithful Accy (yes, Hobbie has been ditched for a different damage type now that drones have been rebalanced) just to get on the Hookbill mail and watched both ships drop fast.

And then I hatched a cunning plan! I watched the Hookbill carefully and, when his hull was low, quickly switched my guns over. He popped in a single volley - a total of 239 damage received - and I stole his mail! Then I switched straight back to the Ishkur and, adding insult to injury, killed him too.

Hookbill: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23195957
Ishkur: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23195962

Haha! I linked the Ishkur pilot the Hookbill mail out of courtesy but for some reason he didn't respond. Unfortunately, I didn't get either pod but I did get a video of it for your enjoyment.

Video: http://youtu.be/aoO9hYI3UzQ

P.S. I have decided to add annotations to some of the new videos to describe what I am trying to do during the fight for noobs. I don’t think they appear on mobile so if they annoy you watch them there.

Murdering a Moa

Well, I changed my fit and got more DPS and tank. Told you it wasn't going to be hard. Mostly because the last fit was rubbish but never mind that. Here is the new fit:

[Thorax, dual rep electrons v2]

Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Armor Repairer II

Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler II
10MN Afterburner II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I

Valkyrie II x5

It will tank 420 dps sustained and has stable cap as long as the charges last. 300dps with electrons and 420 with drones, Now I just have to find myself another Moa to fight. So I set off west into the heart of the Cal/Gal zone with a route up north planned out. I spot a Scythe Fleet Issue on scan a few jumps out and excitedly warp off to a safe to scan him down. Unfortunately the ship was skulking at a POS with a pilot.

Two jumps later, I see a Moa on scan. And there are only two pilots in system, reducing the chance of getting horribly blobbed. He isn't at a plex so I wander off to a Medium and barely have time to get settled in when I spot him on short scan.

I am nervous and completely stuff things up when he warps in. First, I target the plex beacon and get a pop-up asking me if I really want to attack the thing. No, of course I don't. Then I try to target the Small plex next door (slightly out of targeting range at 3 AU). I finally get it right and target him, set an orbit and set my drones on him.

I don't start by overheating my guns, wanting to reserve the extra damage to break through his peak shield recharge more quickly. Overheating my normal repper handled most of the damage and I only had to use the ancillary for a few cycles.

His shield broke pretty quickly when I started overheating and he died, just like that. I snaffled his loot and made my escape. Ha! My first kill in a cruiser!

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23103998

If I ever have a nemesis...

If I ever decide to have a nemesis, it will be Patrick Kasper, my first ever killer:

Incursus: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=18739317
Pod: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=18739318

In my earliest of RvB days I spotted a suspect frigate on the gate in Nomaa. "I'll have him!", I thought. It didn't end well. I was such a noob that I hadn’t even read the “You should never get your pod killed” lecture. Anyway, things have changed somewhat and I thought it was about time to get into cruisers. As beginner’s luck would have it I found a Vexor ratting in a belt as soon as I undocked:

Vexor: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23065307

Sure, an interesting kill with those faction smartbombs but not exactly the next peak of PvP experience that I was hoping for. I didn't even have to turn my repper on.

Anyway, the next time I set out I was determined to find a worthy adversary for my Thorax:

[Thorax, Zappity’s brawly Thorax]

Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Medium Armor Repairer II

Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Electron Blaster II
Heavy Electron Blaster II
Heavy Electron Blaster II
Heavy Electron Blaster II
Heavy Electron Blaster II

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I

Is that a good fit? Eh, I dunno. Whatever. The idea was to get under the guns of the opposition and stay there until he wilted pathetically under my deadly fire. Or something like that.

It took me nearly an hour to find a suitable fight. I almost snared a Vexor in Asakai but he ran away. And when I followed him to the sun he ran away again. I took the hint, if only because I wasn't agile enough tto catch him. Then I found a Stabber Fleet Issue who also snubbed me. So I continued south, heading toward the Min/Amarr zone. Actually, I was hopeful that the intervening non-FW space would be more fruitful for solo cruisers.

I successfully avoided a gate camp at Nisuwa by waiting a moment for the inty and Curse to jump ahead of me. The Rupture and Stabber who stayed behind foolishly neglected to lock me until they saw me aligning out. Ha! Suckers! But it did force me to detour, so I headed back on a circuit through Stay Frosty's old stomping ground of Hevrice.

And then i found a lone Moa piloted by a Tusker. Now, I know that Moa's have a reputation for a fearsome tank. I also know that Tuskers are typically pretty damn good. But I was desperate after nearly an hour of roaming and would happily have taken on a gang of the things. So I scanned him down to a belt whilst in warp to a Medium plex that I opened just to give him the idea. I then warped to his belt and landed just as he entered warp. He was heading for the plex. Fight!

Scram, web, orbit at 500, overheat guns, start killing. It all went (surprisingly) according to plan. For a while. What an astonishing tank he had! My cap boosters were going strong and my reppers were keeping up with the damage until they started getting too hot. After I switched the heat off I was no longer able to handle it and was slowly broken down.

I had him down to about 1/3 shields when I died. Sigh. Very disappointing. But very fun!

Loss: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=23108370

I'll play around with some more fits. I want more gank. And tank. How hard can it be? Below is probably the Moa fit. We chatted for a while after the fight and he mentioned three extender rigs and an invul:

Moa (probably): http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=22221287

While we were chatting I realised that his name was familiar. And then I remembered! Patrick Kasper! My first loss! I linked the lossmail and we had a chuckle about my first ever loss. I'm glad the fit wasn't too atrocious, even though I never fly dual rep Incursus now. Props - it was a good fight.

I want more. Cruisers, here I come.

Catching a sleepy Worm

I logged in and spent a few minutes lazily wandering from system to system in my Comet until someone posted in fleet chat that there was a Worm in Uuna, one system over. I was naturally interested given the recent buff, thinking that a lot of incompetent pilots would be trying them out. Unfortunately, when I jumped into Uuna I was dismayed to see that the Worm was sneakily hidden at a safe spot. I decided to bring a probing alt in.

Now, I used to play around in wormholes so I understand (more or less) how these things work. But I am terribly rusty. I’ll include the times to give you a chuckle.

[22:47:24] Cervantes Marovinjun d-scanned him to somewhere near Station V. I brought my alt in, added him to fleet, warped to a safe after dropping my probes, clustered them on Planet V and hit scan. Damn! 97%! I quickly reduced range and scanned again.

[22:51:31] I warped to the hit and saw the Worm 100km away, burning at 3km/s. Bugger. But hang on, he’s aligned to the sun!

This is where is gets embarrassing. It took me FIVE MINUTES to land a decent short bookmark. I am really out of practice. For those of you who don’t know what I mean this is the practice of warping back to a bookmark from the aligned celestial. You can either land at 100km range (of limited value when the target is moving quickly) or drop a bookmark while you are slowing from warp.

[22:56:35] The Worm is burning straight for my cloaked Cheetah, 100km away. I started the warp to the Cheetah, only to see him 34km away. In the wrong direction. I had miscalculated how long it would take me to drop out of warp and he just burned past my warp in.

There may have been a mild obscenity uttered at this point. I warped Zappity away and started again. The good news was that the guy was clearly AFK and oblivious to my bumbling attempt to snare him.

[23:01:22] Deleted the wrong bloody bookmark, didn’t I! Let’s try again.

[23:02:16] Yeah, that’s how it’s done. Less than a minute this time. I’m on grid and back in the groove! Get ready for the www guys!

[23:02:25] 150km off and burning in fast. Zappity enters warp. Cheetah leaves grid. Zappity lands with the Worm 45km off but heading straight in at 3km/s. “www”, I type.

I barely have time to overheat everything when he hits 10km. Scram! Web! Guns! Drones! By the time the first corpie lands on grid he is already in hull so I stop my damage, figuring that they had been very patient and deserved something for their trouble:

Worm: https://zkillboard.com/kill/39375882/
Pod: https://zkillboard.com/kill/39375891/

The pod wasn’t too expensive. But it wasn’t too cheap, either. Whew, what a rush! VERY satisfying to finally get it right! I don’t think that he will be very happy when he gets back to his keyboard, do you? But a 2011 character should know better than to be a) AFK, and b) aligned for a celestial. So there. Actually, I’m going to add that to the lecture!